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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 10, 2006 5:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

i really hope our "new" government wont be doint anything too far outside the "center." I just don't have much trust in the tax happy democrats. I like to decide what i do with my money rather than some joker telling me i must suppost illegal immigrants, making sure my black/hispanic/guatamalinc/etc neighbor has bigger tv than i have because they are "oppressed." I find democratic ideology a joke in its current form - it borders upon communism. You work for what you get. No freebies. My ancestors came from Ireland - why don't i get food stamps and HD TV like my immigrant neighbors. It is a fuckin joke - When some ignorant people say "send them all back"..... sometimes i cant help but commiserate with that thought. I hate to sound like a racist - because im not - plenty of piece of shit white "gimme girls" in my fine commonwealth of Massachusetts.
The only reason the republicans lost was because of Bush's war on Iraq. Other than that - people around here aren't complaining overly much. Our taxes are cool - now they will be goin down the shitter with Deval Patrick and his f'in democratic cronies. I truly believe the middle class is now fucked.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 10, 2006 6:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

The only reason the republicans lost was because of Bush's war on Iraq. Other than that - people around here aren't complaining overly much

50 000 + iraqi CIVILIAN deaths deserve to be more than a footnote or a quick aside.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 10, 2006 6:48pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

OK - i phrased that pretty poorly - my apologies. I by no means meant to portray that i feel that the deaths or our brothers and sisters, nor iraqi civilians are simply a footnote. Im just not sure the Dems would or could havd done a whole lot differently.
I just meant that economically, we are not in a totally terrible situation (national deficit be damned - that truly means shit in the whole picture) and that with the democrats now winning the house and senate, we will now enter a time of terrible situation. I'm sick of rising taxes and the dems are the worst of the worst when it comes to that.

Again, sorry for my phraseology - i now realize that came across as quite callous - but that was not my intent. Hope you guys know me better than that from prior posts regarding our soldiers.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Nov 10, 2006 7:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

Dire: I'm with ya. Here's the clincher, get any of our socialist brothers to answer this one and win a prize!

When was the last time a country was taxed into prosperity?

Substitute the words "business" or "family" for country if you wish.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 10, 2006 7:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

WORD!!!! that is what i meant in a completely inappropriate phraseology (like ian pointed out to me, rightly so)

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Poster: high flow Date: Nov 10, 2006 7:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

Earl, Dire, DEADBUCK(shocker), High Flow,..........hmmmmmm.....who else..........................?

I'm guessing those guys have been running families AND businesses? Don't get me started on what I make and what I take....it's pitiful already. SHIT!

This post was modified by high flow on 2006-11-11 03:59:49

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 10, 2006 8:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

we are right - they are wrong - proves our supreme intelligence and insight into US politics. damn, we are smart - maybe we should run for office under the new LMA Party. We wouldn't win - but we sure may have better ideas :)

(may be a few too many skeletons in our closets though - lol)

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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 10, 2006 6:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

peace dire.

ian

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 10, 2006 7:05pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

sorry man - didnt' mean to offend. hope you know me better than that.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 10, 2006 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

i do, i do. i just read the post as being slightly cavalier. almost a toss off, 'other than bush's war'. bush's war IS a BIG deal and it ain't going away. i wouldn't dare comment on your domestic politics! simply not my buisness. unfortunately, his war has infact become everyone's war, trust me.

nothing will be solved here, tonight. like many have said before - politics don't work on this forum. i'll learn yet : )

i'm back to the music.

ian







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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Nov 10, 2006 7:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

i hear ya man - i reread my post and completely agree it came off as a cavalier comment on a subject that is so not simply cavalier. I need to be more careful - a few too many beers and i mis-phrased. thanks for pointing that out ian. don't want to come across to other who don't "know me" in an incorrect manner.

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Nov 10, 2006 7:19pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

Bush's war? Somehow I don't think poor ol' dumb George is single handedly responsible for a worldwide surge in Islamic fundamentalism. Just like I can't hold him responsible for the death of 50,000 Iraqi citizens, which may be a token number compared to the internal carnage they are capable of rending on each other. Our mistake is obvious, the tribal and religious fundamentalist politics of the region are too far behind the civilized world to entrust to a democratic way of governance.

It's hard to imagine, but probably true, there would be less violence reported on United States television news stations if Iraq was ruled by it's own murderous dictator and we minded our own business.

By the way, Al Qaeda sent out a tape today congratulating us on the elections. I guess they liked what they saw.

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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 10, 2006 8:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

earl,

i thought you weren't one for talking politics on this forum?

if you can't hold the highest office in the land responsible, then who should field the blame? i thought the buck stops there? absolutely no accountablity in that god damned administration.

talk about fundamentalism! - http://www.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/jesuscamp/trailer/ featuring ted haggard no less!




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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Nov 10, 2006 8:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

Ian: I don't think the subject of politics is intructional around this forum unless it has something to do with the band. The biggest reason is that there are those that incorrectly assume that all Dead fans are dyed in the wool liberal democrats. Gloating over the election is unbecoming in mixed company under those circumstances.

Our mutual devotion to the music is worthy of admiration on it's own, the subject of politics and the commentaries it provokes doesn't mesh with our usual feel good vibe.

Not following my own advice, when was the last American troops pulled from Kosovo? Were Europen victims of atrocities any more or less important than those in Iraq? Wasn't Clinton's management of the "war" in the Balkans characterized as a "quagmire?"

George could have handled the election differently, he could have been caught getting blown by an intern and impeached to keep the country's mind off his mismanaged war effort.



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Poster: mcglone Date: Nov 10, 2006 9:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

thanks for responding earl. i must admit, i'm all but done for the day.

you know i'm not looking for a fight and i'm certainly in no position to gloat. i know why i chimed in and i have no regrets. i would have loathed myself if i bit my tongue any longer. there is a time and place for everything, and your right, it's not here.

as always, i look forward to reading your posts.

enjoy your weekend.

ian



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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Nov 10, 2006 9:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Farewell to the Anti-Jerry

Ian....agreed.